THE Q'S OF DOOM (not really) (returns) (you sickass mofo)

[mrwiseman]

GRANDIA II MAJOR SPOILERS!

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There is a certain set of facts that have a difficult explanation in the game:

1. Why didn't the Wings of Valmar directly possess Elena, like other pieces of Valmar did with everyone else? I'd understand keeping one's form when you're strong (the Horn on Melfice never were turned into an ugly monster lique the Tongue on Gadan or the Heart on Selene, for example), but why wasn't Elena changed, and Millenia created?
2. Why was Elena able to re-create Millenia later in the game, without even the Wings of Valmar, though Millenia still had special Valmar powers, plus giving her a separate body?
3. How come Elena grew wings in the end of the game?

Bj came up with a theory that explains all of this with an amazing ease, so, as in Science, I will accept it unless a better, easiest to believe theory is invented.

Everything works fine if we think that Elena is a descendant of Granas, even though she never knows it (although maybe she realizes that she is at the end, when she says "Oh, I see!").

We never knew anything about Elena's family. Chances are that Lord Granas descended to the Earth every now and then and had a child - like Zeus did in Greek Mythology. Granas' Power of Creation was passed down from generation to generation, probably without they knowing they had it.

And Elena was born. A woman with the Power of Light hidden within her. When she was in a really hard situation, like at Garmia Tower, she was able to use it, even if she didn't know anything about it. "You won't possess me" - That's what Elena kept repeating to the wings. It would seem that Elena created Millenia to feed the Wings of Valmar with somebody else.

Then, much later in the game, she realized that she could make Millenia come again, even in a separate body. And in the end of the game, Millenia seemed to know what kind of power did Elena have, that's why she said "C'mon, Elena, don't you know?". After that, Elena said "Oh, I see!" and created the white wings.

[melfice]

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Because maybe she descend from any "winged" family, though she never had the chance to know that she had wings. (we don't know Elena's family)... Maybe she is a descendant of the Angelou civilization

(Xell can correct this point... i haven't ended G1 yet, so i may mistake...)

[mrwiseman]

**GRANDIA II SPOILERS**

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If so, you'd have to explain facts 1 and 2 in my last post with some another theory.

[crazyelf]

i remember that, it was
"melfice"

then
"elena"

then "arum root"
or something like that

[crazyelf]

ok i have a question, why does elena get white wings at the end of the game?

[Cavalier]

ohoho wiseman can answer that one perfectly ^^

but there are others too! im not one of them! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[mrwiseman]

Ok, here goes a question:

Does the set of sets that do not contain themselves contain itself?

- He he -

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ October 18, 2002 07:43 PM: Message edited by: -Wiseman- ]</font>

[Xellos]

I kinda got a new theory on G1 and G2! After learnign:


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During the cutscene when you get Liete and she explains the Icarians, she says that they everntually even gained power to travel tot he stars... now say that some of thm colonized another planet? Also, she says that Icarians won't be born w/the spirit stone, so say that when the spirit stone was split apart, that the colonies stopped beign the winged people, but reverted to humans? Then say the humans tried usingt he BotG to become Icarians again, this would have caused Granas and Valmar's birth, Granas from it qoeking, but on too hihg of a level, so he feared to change all humans into the godlike beigns, and Valmar's went horribly wrong... then since Feena and Leen are Icarians, I'm guessing that each generation has an Icarian set, this would explain Elena, but where's her twin? Maybe she was killed before she went to Carbo, and then Elena somehow save dher sister's oul in her body, and when the Wings possessed her, her sister's soul was the one possessed, giving her physical body!

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ October 18, 2002 08:06 PM: Message edited by: Xellos ]</font>

[mrwiseman]

Can't read it, didn't play G1 yet, going to someday

Try to answer my question too [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Xellos]

Yers confuses my poor head T_T [img]tongue.gif[/img]

BTW, my theory also kinda says Elena's a descendant of Granas, but not actually by blood... but by um... race?